Defying Gravity ([info]chennpug) wrote,
@ 2005-09-24 01:46:00
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Shakespere Meme, Cemetery/Asylum research
(nicked from [info]urbanfae

Meme - When you see this in a friend's journal, quote Shakespeare.

I love this scene in the movie; it's so very dramatic.  If you haven't seen the Branaugh/Thompson version, please, please, please do so. 


Benedick:  Lady Beatrice, have you wept all this while?
Beatrice:  Yea, and I will weep a while longer.
Bene:  I will not desire that.
Beat:  You have no reason, I do it freely.
Bene:  Surely I do believe your fair cousin is wrong'd.
Beat:  Ah, how much might the man deserve of me that would right her!
Bene:  Is there any way to show such friendship?
Beat:  A very even way, but no such friend.
Bene:  May a man do it?
Beat:  It is a man's office, but not yours.
Bene:  I do love nothing in the world so well as you--is not that strange?
Beat:  As strange as the thing I know not.  It were as possible for me to say I lov'd nothing so well as you, but believe me not; and yet I lie not; I confess nothing, nor I deny nothing.  I am sorry for my cousin.
Bene:  By my sword, Beatrice, thou lovest me.
Beat:  Do not swear and eat it.
Bene:  I will swear by it that you love me, and I will make him eat it that says I love not you.
Beat:  Will you not eat your word?
Bene:  With no sauce that can be devis'd to it.  I protest I love thee.
Beat:  Why then, God forgive me!
Bene:  What offense, sweet Beatrice?
Beat:  You have stay'd me in a happy hour, I was about to protest I lov'd you.
Bene:  And do it with all they heart.
Beat:  I love you with so much of my heart that none is left to protest.
Bene:  Come, bid me do anything for thee.
Beat:  Kill Claudio.
Bene:  Ha, not for the wide world.
Beat:  You kill me to deny it.  Farewell.
Bene:  Tarry, sweet Beatrice.
Beat:  I am gone, though I am here;  there is no love in you.  Nay, I pray you let me go.
Bene:  Beatrice--
Beat:  In faith, I will go.
Bene:  We'll be friends first.
Beat:  You dare easier be friends with me than fight with mine enemy.
Bene:  Is Claudio thine enemy?
Beat:  Is 'a not approv'd in the heigh a villain, that hath slander'd, scorn'd, dishonor'd my kinswoman?  O that I were a man!  What, bear her in hand until they come to take hands, and then with public accusation, uncover'd slander, unmitigated rancor--O God, that I were a man!  I would eat his heart in the market-place!
Bene:  Hear me, Beatrice---
Beat:  Talk with a man out at a window!  a proper saying!
Bene:  Nay, but, Beatrice--
Beat:  Sweet Hero, she is wrong'd, she is sland'red, she is undone.
Bene:  Beat--
Beat:  Princes and counties!  Surely a princely testimony, a goodly count, Count Comfect, a sweet gallant surely!  O that I were a man for his sake! or that I had any friend would be a man for my sake!  But manhood is melted into cur'sies, valor into compliment, and men are only turn'd into tongue, and trim ones too.  He is now as valiant as Hercules that only tells a lie, and swears it.  I cannot be a man with wishing, therefore I will die a woman with grieving.
Bene:  Tarry, good Beatrice.  By this hand, I love thee.
Beat:  Use it for my love some other way than swearing by it.
Bene:  Think you in your soul the Count Claudio hath wrong'd Hero?
Beat:  Yea, as sure as I have a thought or a soul.
Bene:  Enough, I am engag'd, I will challenge him. 


from Much Ado About Nothing, IV.i, The Riverside Shakespeare; Second Edition



In other news, Nyte and I popped over to Jeremy's to watch some Robot Chicken and Harvey Birdman: Attorney At Law, and then some Battlestar Galactica.  I finished that half fish, and knitted two more.  I'm done with the light green, yay!  So now I have six pink fishes, and 10 light greens!  Huzzah!  Time to finish up that last skein of pink, which will TOTALLY be done this weekend.  I figure that I was over there for about two hours or so, perhaps a bit more, and knitted two and a half fish.  I didn't knit frantically the entire time, and there were moments when I put down my knitting and forgot to pick it up again for a while. 

Nyte went home early and went to bed.  I am still up, naughty thing that I am.  Tsk.  Shakespeare is worth it. 

While I was there, I got into a conversation with Hannah about the cemetery somewhere here in Columbus that has a number of graves in it marked only "M", "F", a number, "unknown", or "specimen."  How freaky is that?  Well, it's one of three notable cemeteries utilized almost exclusively for several of the insane asylums that used to operate hereabouts, and none of them are available for visiting without express permission of the owners (the city?).  Also, they border the woods, which apparently is the hip hangout for various homeless people and transients, so that's another good reason not to go poking around at night by yourself.  More info on the TICO cemetery here.

One of the other cemeteries is the Harper-McKinley cemetery, which belonged first to another "Asylum for the Feebleminded," and then to the city and used to bury prisoners.  This one is the oldest, with TICO being the most recently-used (as late as 1976), and the intermediate cemetery being The Developmental Center Cemetery.  H-M has some very interesting gravemarkers, and the site is worth looking over.  In both of the cemeteries, it was first theorized that a lot of the named graves belonged to children, because of the date ranges.  It seems, however, to be the dates of the patient's admission into the respective asylums, not birthdates, and then the dates of death. 

The Columbus Mental Hospital Development Center cemetery is the intermediate one, and there aren't as many specimen or numbered graves here.  However, it was taken over by the city and  used to bury John Does, which the site author thinks may account for a lot of the "unknown" graves.

One of the largest asylums in Columbus burned down in 1868, and was a complete loss.  News article here.  I found some pictures of it! (here)  Wow, what a huge building for 1838!  And after that picture, information and another picture of its replacement, built on the same ground.  It was also called the Hilltop Asylum.  It was demolished sometime in the 80's or 90's, and the Dept. of Transportation built its headquarters right on the spot.

....wonder if it's haunted?

Another asylum in Athens The Ridges (great history of the site) is now renovated and used as classrooms, office and administration buildings for Ohio University (OU, not OSU), except for the old TB ward..  How. Creepy.

Summary of OU haunting 'legends.'

Yeah.  Uhm.  I should go to bed.  But this stuff is cool.




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(Anonymous)
2005-09-24 04:12 pm UTC (link)
There is a Civil War Cemetary in Columbus I visited once that is supposed to be haunted. It seems there was a Prisoner of War Camp there so a number of Confederate graves there. ITs quite small. However there is a marker there indicating the grave of an unknown soldier and flowers appearantly are found on the grave frequently. There has also been sightings of a woman in mourning dress wandering among the graves.

OU is considered on of the most haunted places in the US, and was even ranked by the Society of Psychical Research in Britain as the 13th most haunted place in the world. I've always wanted to visit the place. I've seen the Asylum and several other places around the OU campus featured on a number of TV shows over the years, but I've never made the trip down there myself.

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[info]scott_wells
2005-09-24 04:13 pm UTC (link)
Ooops... That was me who posted that by the way. :) Forgot to log in.

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[info]chennpug
2005-09-24 04:38 pm UTC (link)
Hehehehe, it happens.

Yeah, the sites touched on the tv shows, but seemed to hold them in a bit of contempt for their overwhelming sensationalism. I'd heard a bit about OU, but nothing with any sort of factual authority behind it until now.

As far as the Civil War cemetery, I think it might be included in Harper-McKinley, but I'll have to poke around a bit more before I can say that with any certainty.

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